More Sexism At NBC
The victims this time were Rachel Maddow AND Hillary Clinton. The context was Obama's "inartful" use of the word "refine" regarding his Iraq policy. TChris covered that controversy. Maddow was arguing the Obama argument and Joe Scarborough was not happy about Maddow's laughing as a reaction to Joe's commentary. The result was yet another episode of sexism at NBC:
Yet more guffaws from Maddow.
MADDOW: You're so wrong, I can't even hold it together. You're so wrong.
SCARBOROUGH: You might support Obama but you've got the Clinton cackle down, Rachel. I'm proud of ya.
(Emphasis supplied.) Maddow has been silent and cowardly on the issue of sexism and misogyny at NBC and in general, so you might be tempted to feel some schadenfreude. Resist it. Sexism is wrong whenever it occurs and whomever it is directed at. NBC should suspend Scarborough for this blatant bout of sexism.
By Big Tent Democrat, speaking for me only
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- July 4, 2008
OK it's a slow news day
I get that. Holidays can be a problem. No question Scarborough is an ass. No argument that, with no chance at winning the argument on the merits, he deflected and dodged the subject. But sexism? NO. Mr Burns laugh on The Simpsons is a cackle, How does that become sexist. Just because a comment is demeaning does not make it sexist. Let's save the outrage for cases that are clearly sexist. The right wing will give us plenty of opportunity. Crying about it here just weakens our argument when it is real.
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By gt6July 4, 2008 - 12:12pmHummmmmmmmmmmmmm
Isn't SCARBOROUGH on MSNBC? The same sexist, racist, homophobic, socialistic station that employed IMUS, and still employs Olbermann?
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By leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 12:14pmBy leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 12:14pm
Are you trying to say that you want to give Joey a hummmmmmmmmmmmmer?
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By Guy FawkesJuly 4, 2008 - 12:17pmBy Guy FawkesJuly 4, 2008 - 12:17pm
He wants to give him the rusty trombone...
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By f u bush2July 4, 2008 - 12:38pmI'd much prefer
...if righties(R)sick teabagged a shotgun.
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By nonexistent manJuly 4, 2008 - 4:48pmA link to NewsBusters?
Really? A warning that you're linking to a wingnut website would be nice.
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By Guy FawkesJuly 4, 2008 - 12:15pmGuy fawkes
Are you gay? You must be, as you really are preoccupied with gay sex and male genitalia.
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By leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 12:34pmActually
...since YOU'RE the one who seems preoccupied with the sexual orientation of all those who disagree with you, it's most likely that YOU are the closet gay.
Now go enlist, traitor scum. And don't forget...don't ask, don't tell.
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By nonexistent manJuly 4, 2008 - 12:59pmHey nano man
You are one sick sob. I think your the reincarnation of hufflarry.
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By leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 4:25pmWhy, weasler!
I almost didn't recognize you! How's your NAMBLA-buddy? Give him the keys to the handcuffs yet? Does he think you look cute in those fishnets and that thong, the way your mother did?
Go enlist, traitor scum. And don't forget...don't ask, don't tell.
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By nonexistent manJuly 4, 2008 - 4:47pmMinnesota teen charged with
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By f u bush2July 4, 2008 - 12:39pmNot sexism, rapant conservatism
You could argue that the cackle comment is sexism, but it's been plainly clear to me for some time now that Scarborough doesn't like Rachel because she's a liberal on Air America and that her being a woman has very little to do with it. Personally, I'm more bothered by the fact that he never bothers to listen to the substance of any of her arguments and automatically disagrees with them because they're coming from her. I can believe that sexist comments get lumped in with his criticisms of her positions, but it doesn't start there. It starts with his complete intolerance of talking with someone who believes something different than he does. I saw him do the same thing on Real Time with Bill Maher when he was talking to Matt Taibbi. On some issues he can be completely rational, but there a handful where he loses all inability to do so and just lashes out in whatever area he thinks is most vulnerable because he's unable to refute the facts that oppose his shaky positions on those issues.
It's an anti-liberal bias, not an anti-female bias.
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By witchyflickchickJuly 4, 2008 - 4:13pmthere's substance to her rants?
Do tell.
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By leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 4:21pmIf you want to know if something’s sexist,
simply use the expression in reference to the other gender. Do men "cackle"? Nope, it’s definitely a slur against women. The word specifically derides strong women by referencing evil witches, which is a tactic that has been historically used to suppress, intimidate and subjugate women.
Here’s why this particular expression is so bad:
The "Hillary cackle" is an actual video that is mailed around and posted on right wing websites. It is composed of clips of very fake sounding laughs from Hillary pasted together to make her look silly or weird and certainly not presidential or strong. It's a disgusting right wing tool that is meant to be demeaning and cruel. Links to the “Hillary Cackle” video were mailed to Republicans and right wingers with Limbaugh Operation Chaos encouragement vote for Hillary to try to extend and undermine our Democratic primary.
Now that Joe Scarborough has stooped to using this right wing tool against another strong woman, Rachel Maddow, he’s participated in the normalization and mainstreaming of that expression.
It's bad enough for an MSNBC host to engage in sexist and misogynist behavior, but for Scarborough to it as a mechanism for dismissing women on the air lends legitimacy to a right wing GOP tool. Worse, the segment with Maddow didn't even involve Clinton herself, which now makes it an acceptable put down for of any woman he disagrees with. Scarborough stooped to this attack because Maddow stood up for Barack Obama against Scarborough and the other talking heads.
If you think Joe Scarborough shouldn’t attack guests with sexist right wing tactics just because they disagree and support Obama, contact MSNBC:
President, NBC News steve.capus@nbc.com
Vice President, NBC News phil.griffin@nbc.com
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By MyLeftMindJuly 4, 2008 - 4:31pmThanks
I just e-mailed both people, asking that they take olbermann off the air, for his slanderous, sexist, racists, homophobic, incoherant anti-american rants.
Oops, I forgot, he's on MSNBC. He is, for all intense and purpose's "off the air".
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By leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 4:59pmBy leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 4:59pm
Please take an English class. Aren't you the least bit embarrassed by your illiteracy?
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By Guy FawkesJuly 4, 2008 - 5:08pmHe's a proud example
...of NCLB. This is what happens when teachers are forced to teach only to tests, and not to the real world.
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By nonexistent manJuly 4, 2008 - 5:15pmMaybe we should all start posting in spanish?
Can anyone say: English as a second language?
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By leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 5:18pmBy leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 5:18pm
You should probably work on getting English down first, little guy. Baby steps...
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By Guy FawkesJuly 4, 2008 - 5:25pmThey crack me up
They're fighting to get a language they can't properly speak or write made the official national language of the United States. I love watching RepubliCANTs set themselves up for failure.
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By nonexistent manJuly 4, 2008 - 5:28pmBy nonexistent manJuly 4, 2008 - 5:28pm
No doubt. One common trait that most right-wing trolls seem to share is their inability to correctly use or spell the English language. Combined with their irrational xenophobia it's quite comical. Sad & hypocritical, but comical nonetheless.
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By Guy FawkesJuly 4, 2008 - 5:43pmOh, I forgot, You all are a bunch of
cultural elitists, who firmly believe America is the center of the universe.
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By leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 5:20pmAccuracy fixxy
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 4, 2008 - 5:27pmI have never let my schooling interfere with my education.
I’ve been making a list of the things they don’t teach you at school. They don’t teach you how to love somebody. They don’t teach you how to be famous. They don’t teach you how to be rich or how to be poor. They don’t teach you how to walk away from someone you don’t love any longer. They don’t teach you how to know what’s going on in someone else’s mind. They don’t teach you what to say to someone who’s dying. They don’t teach you anything worth knowing.
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By leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 9:28pmBut they DO teach you
...how to think critically, which is a skill you obviously never bothered learning. If you had, you wouldn't be sitting in your mommy's basement parroting the drug addict's talking points and otherwise aping your betters.
Go teabag a shotgun, traitor scum.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 5, 2008 - 4:25amNano man
Your are living proof that your statement is false. Either that, or you have never been to school. You don't seem to know the differance between "Critical Thinking" and "Critizing". And you certainly don't know how to think independantly.
First, I apologize for my English, I am French
An editor to her new journalist. If you have nothing new to say, shut the f*** up!
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By leftysrsickJuly 5, 2008 - 10:54amYou're projecting again
Accuracy fixxy:
Perhaps you should return to your chateau at 8th and Bleeker until you can demonstrate comprehension of this language. That, or go see the nice doctors at the Aix-Aux-Deux Psychiatric Hospital so you can learn what projection is, why it's bad for you, and how not to do it.
You're still just a FNORD.
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By nonexistent manJuly 5, 2008 - 2:56pmSi vous êtes vraiment
Si vous êtes vraiment français, vous pourrez me répondre en français. A mon avis, vous ne dites pas la vérité: ma mère est Belge et son anglais est meilleur que le votre.
BTW, "difference" in French is "différence."
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By MichtouJuly 5, 2008 - 3:53pmAll the languages he could have picked
to allege are his first, he picked the wrong one.
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By gt6July 5, 2008 - 3:59pmAnd you missed the sarcasm, re: france.
But I did spend a year there once, I think it was a sunday.
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By leftysrsickJuly 5, 2008 - 4:13pmI want my two dollars!
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By f u bush2July 4, 2008 - 9:35pmfu is living proof that:
It is not necesssary to understand things in order to argue about them.
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By leftysrsickJuly 4, 2008 - 11:55pmAccuracy fixxy
Now go teabag a shotgun, traitor scum.
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By nonexistent manJuly 5, 2008 - 4:26amI started to post stories on torture in the name of the US
Go to this thread:
http://airamerica.com/blog/2008/jul/05/flip-flops-and-contrast
Stay on topic and do not respond to trolls. Gather the information there. Watch the fireworks that fly.
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By f u bush2July 5, 2008 - 12:06pmWhy not some balance?
Why not stories on torture in the name of present day socialist? Or stories on torture in the name of Allah? Or in the name of Saddam?
That's why I consider you a traitor to your country. You only post things that serve to undermine this Country.
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By leftysrsickJuly 5, 2008 - 12:33pmBy leftysrsickJuly 5, 2008 - 12:33pm
You should really hate Repugnantcans then. Those traitors have almost irreparably undermined this country.
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By Guy FawkesJuly 5, 2008 - 12:45pmChristians pray to Allah
Christians pray to Allah also...if they speak Arabic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_terms_in_Arabic
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By MichtouJuly 5, 2008 - 1:08pmthey're are over 999 names for GOD.
Allah is just one name.
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By leftysrsickJuly 5, 2008 - 3:51pm